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WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« on: October 26, 2019, 11:48:31 am »
While sorting through some old WW1 naval photographs I came across this one which puzled me. Would it be a Q ship as it looked like a merchantman but why is it camoflaged and what are the four masts used for, a sail jury rig ?
Any ideas Liphr ?
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2019, 12:09:47 pm »
Problem in resizing !
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 08:49:06 am »
Found it !
It was the White Star Liner  s.s Persic one of the 'Jubilee class who had been commandeered under the liner requistion scheme in WW1 for a troop carrier..She carried320 passengers ( or 2,800 American squaddies )
She had been torpedoed off the Scilly Islands by SM UB-87 but survive to be scrapped in 1927
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2019, 01:32:49 pm »
Just to complete the picture the Airship is an SSZ-class Maritime Blimp Airship.
Could not help with the ship I was FAA

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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2019, 07:35:24 pm »
Thanks for that info. am attatching a clearer photo of the blimp...I can just see the SS on the front near the roundel
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2019, 08:10:26 pm »
Another mystery ship is this one which has  one forward facing  gun on a whaleback and two amidships,  three large vents the largest further aft and the two side ones fitted with a dorade box, an open bridge and a strange anchor arrangement which seems to involve man handling a large admiralty patern anchor......any ideas ?
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2019, 03:56:23 pm »
Fascinated by the photos johnjohn and your knowledge of the architectural details of those ships. I know nothing about vessels of this period at all but was struck by the relatively small scale of the ship in the foreground (compare its size with the crew on board) yet it has three funnels? The flag doesn’t seem to be British but that may be lack of detail in the photo.
Only by googling can I offer that the pennant number D76 of the ship in the background seems to be HMS Witherington that was stationed in home waters (where the photo could have been taken?) immediately after WW1 – but I suspect you knew that already! 

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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2019, 04:18:47 pm »
These C Class destroyers looked little too and they had a whaleback forward (sorry, forrard!)



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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2019, 08:49:32 am »
Yes a similar design .I cannot identify the flag on the stern and why does it have a rubbing strake and a straight stem with little rake on the bow ? will keep looking !
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2019, 07:34:25 pm »
No joy yet but a couple of clues....Coming into a home port as anchor party is on standby with anchor ready to drop and. there is no courtesy flag displayed The background scenery might be an indication of the Country
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2019, 07:45:31 pm »
Got it !...Its a Hllenic Navy Niki class destroyer. Four were built in Germany around 1906...I still don't understand why they were using an Admiralty pattern anchor unless of course as they were patented the Germans did not want to pay !
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Re: WW1 Naval ship....unidentified
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 07:47:37 pm »
Correction.  The patent anchor was the stockless one invented by R.F.Hawkins in 1823 so it looks as if in 1906 the Germans were not prepared to pay for the patent anchor and resorted to the Admiralty patern type which had the advantage of better holding but must have taken a lot of man power to un house and drop it.
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