Author Topic: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)  (Read 5658 times)

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Re: No - it can't be!
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2018, 05:36:25 pm »
Surely in the annals of the war department they must have some records of it ?
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Re: No - it can't be!
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2018, 05:54:17 pm »
Surely in the annals of the war department they must have some records of it ?
Are you volunteering to look up the annals?
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Re: No - it can't be!
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2018, 08:11:49 am »
We can have a try....I wonder if the Royal Flying Corps have any local records....I knew one of the Shoreham Pilots boatmen,John Ayling,who used to fly with them but unfortunatly he is not around these days
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2018, 04:56:24 pm »
This Newspaper extract refers to the plans for a seaplane station in 1913:

Brighton Seaplane Station. An important scherne is on foot to construct hydroplane station at Southwick, near Brighton. A company connected with Bungalow Town have formulated plans for certain improvements and the construction liangars. Tliev are negotiation ...

Published: Friday 12 September 1913
Newspaper: Luton Times and Advertiser
How this ties in with Volks' temporary canvas hangars at Paston Place Seaplane Station is unknown:
http://regencysociety-jamesgray.com/volume6/source/jg_06_089.html

This Newspaper extract refers to the existence of sheds in 1922:

The rapidity with which bungalows are springing up at Shoreham and Bungalow Town is ..... of the ever-increasing popularity and wealth the district. Where the seaplane shads stood before they were dismantled a short time ago is now ...


Published: Saturday 13 May 1922
Newspaper: Worthing Herald
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #49 on: October 23, 2018, 08:28:32 pm »
Nicely done Spinalman. I've been searching the BNA archives for most of the day and didn't come across that article.
It's still difficult to understand how their existence has been "hidden" to us for so long.
I suppose the search goes on for photos and descriptions. We'll, it does for me!

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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2018, 12:32:30 pm »
Superb Spinalman - Umbra, yes certainly we're all still very much interested in finding more on this.

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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2018, 09:10:43 am »
Quite a few developments have occurred since the last post. Newspaper reports of the time do mention the seaplane shed but a big surprise (for me) is that the hangars were not on the beach where we expected but further up above Beach Road.
It seems we are now left with the unlikely thought that aircraft were wheeled from the hangars on trolleys across Beach Road and on to the beach – surely an impractical arrangement?
In the event the intended development may not have been completed due to the war’s end but for what it is worth we’ve put together a short article together with the photographic evidence for anyone that may be interestedhttp://www.shorehambysea.com/shorehams-mystery-seaplane-base//
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2018, 10:54:45 pm »
I knew we'd find another reference to the hangars, in plain sight. Here is the Bungalow Town Property Map of 1917:
http://www.shorehambysea.com/bungalow-town-property-map-index/
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2018, 06:08:39 pm »
Of course - well spotted spinalman!

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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2018, 07:25:40 pm »
Ditto!....I guess the Old Coastguard site was cleared to give a clear run to the sea.
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2018, 08:08:27 pm »
This is my best estimate footprint based on the photos, the concrete footings / remains and the bungalows/Bank in vicinity.  Plan superimposed over 1946 OS sheet, and 2015 Google Earth
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2018, 08:11:39 pm »
Ditto!....I guess the Old Coastguard site was cleared to give a clear run to the sea.
I bet they got through a fair number of pram wheels pushing the planes over Beach Road, and shingle....

Seriously though. Newhaven used wooden railway sleepers to build a jetty to the water.
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2018, 08:19:41 am »
I would have thought that operating from the river would have been better with calmer water and an airspeed boost being obtained from a following tide,perhaps the proximity of the Norfolk Bridge prevented this when heading into the prevailing SWly wind and the footbridge in the other direction.  Launching from the beach must only have been possible at near low tide unless on a very calm day due to the swell and breakers.
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2018, 12:58:52 pm »
Launching from the beach must only have been possible at near low tide unless on a very calm day due to the swell and breakers.

Looking at the Newhaven base photos there were a lot of seaplane photos with the aircraft tipped up into the sea.  Certainly these were dangerous aircraft in anything other than ideal sea conditions.
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Re: No - it can't be! (Seaplane Base?)
« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2018, 01:01:54 pm »
This is my best guess for the hangars and the footprint of the concrete pad - overlayed a c.1940's aerial where some subsequent bungalows appear to have been built directly on the pad and then later demolished for WWII. Below is the same aerial with the post 1924 bungalow footprints highlighted (locations taken from 1931 OS Map). The yellow denotes the whole plot on one that explains the ingress of vegetation in the specific part of the hangar. 1927 aerial of bungaalows before gardens had been planted.
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